razielim: kyle rayner from my lube ad poster (Default)
[personal profile] razielim
I'm trying to figure out the best way to post a bunch of old fanfics on Ao3 without alerting all the people who have subscribed to my account?

I'm finally thinking of reversing my decision to delete all Supernatural fics (and oh god I just remembered I also deleted all the Teen wolf ones. Fine. Supernatural and Teen Wolf, jfc).

Here's the thing - I didn't know you could subscribe to people, so way back when, prior to deleting them, my initial approach was to consolidate them into chapters of a single fic, one fic per ship - a fic with all Wincest ficlets, a fic with all Drowley ficlets, etc.

Cue one of my mutuals sending me an ask on tumblr like "Gabriel, you gave me a heart attack seeing so many update emails."

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.

NO.

Not doing that again. I finally figured out how to look it up, and there are 500 people who would get notifications if I simply posted and backdated new fics. I would die. Of guilt or something.

So. I have two options I'm considering.
  • One. Create a new account. Post old fics to new account. Add my main account retroactively. Abandon the fics from the new account, leaving only my main. This seems like something a crazy person would do, but it should work. I think.
  • Two. Create a false identity. Affix a fake mustach-oijgojgoijg I'm kidding.
  • Two. Post them as part of a hidden collection and "reveal" later. Do people get notifications about reveals by people they subscribe to? I don't know. Sounds dangerous, if you're into that sort of thing.

Anyone happen to know the best approach? Because otherwise I'm going to start drafting the weirdest fucking request to Ao3 Support.

Date: 2022-02-02 03:36 (UTC)
olivermoss: (Default)
From: [personal profile] olivermoss
I don't have any advice to skipping the alerts, but in the future if you want to delete fic you can create your own unrevealed collection to just stash them in. I saw a lot of people delete fic last year and then have regrets. Maybe you already know this, but I really wish it was more commonly known.

I have a bunch of unrevealed on one of my accounts.

Date: 2022-02-02 04:19 (UTC)
yuuago: A white cat reading a book (Cat - Reading)
From: [personal profile] yuuago
Hi there! I saw your post on the Latest Things page.

The only way I've heard of to upload fics and not have Ao3 send out notifications for it is to upload them to a secondary account, then add your main account as an additional author, and then remove the secondary account as the author. This seems to be what you're suggesting in option 1. I haven't tried it myself, but I've heard that it does work. You may need to give some time in between transfers to ensure the notification doesn't go out.

About this: Do people get notifications about reveals by people they subscribe to?

Yes, they do receive notifications when someone they're subscribed to has fics revealed from a hidden collection. These notifications are consolidated - if a bunch of them are revealed at once, subscribers will only receive one email. So that's an option if you don't mind them receiving one email, but it isn't useful if you want to prevent upload notification completely.

Hope that helps! I really wish there was an easy option to upload something without letting the Entire World know that you're doing it, but there isn't, to my knowledge.

Date: 2022-02-02 05:37 (UTC)
ex_flameandsong751: An androgynous-looking guy: short grey hair under rainbow cat ears hat, wearing silver Magen David and black t-shirt, making a peace sign, background rainbow bokeh. (!The Squad: Sören: hrmm)
From: [personal profile] ex_flameandsong751
I've seen people on AO3 who have an alt and state something on the profile like "this is my porn account because my mom/grandma/whatever reads my main" or "this is my account for This Other Fandom so people who subscribe to me aren't getting updates for shit they don't care about" so conceivably you could make a second account and link to it on your profile like "all my old SPN/Teen Wolf/etc stuff is here". There's no rules against that. I mean you could also do the approach of secondary account, add yourself, remove secondary account later too, but that's a big extra step because then you have to approve said requests to add you as co-author on your main and you're going to get bombarded with e-mails.

I wouldn't recommend contacting Support because they're already bogged down with various abuse tickets and it'll take weeks if not months for them to get back to you [they tend to only reply right away if you got a comment with hate speech or threats and even then, "right away" isn't right away] and they'll probably tell you the exact same thing, because they would have to change their code to not ping your subscribers umpteen times otherwise, and they can't really do that.

Date: 2022-02-02 05:42 (UTC)
ex_flameandsong751: An androgynous-looking guy: short grey hair under rainbow cat ears hat, wearing silver Magen David and black t-shirt, making a peace sign, background rainbow bokeh. (neuroweird: I lack social skills)
From: [personal profile] ex_flameandsong751
Just as an fyi, when I've posted multiple works in a close timeframe where AO3 sent out one e-mail for three or four works instead of three or four e-mails, those three or four works bundled in the one notification e-mail tend to get less traffic for awhile [unless it's chapters of the same work, the rare occasions when I post more than one chapter to a fic in a day]. Eventually people who want to read your stuff will get caught up, but most people aren't going to scroll down an e-mail to look at all the links. That's probably still better than them getting fifty e-mails in a day at which point you'll just lose subscribers [my subscriber count usually goes down by one or two if I do more than two updates in a day, which doesn't happen often, then it goes back up a few days later].
Edited Date: 2022-02-02 05:43 (UTC)

Date: 2022-02-02 05:45 (UTC)
kalloway: A close-up of Rocbouquet from Romacing SaGa 2 (Default)
From: [personal profile] kalloway
What I do when posting multiple things at once is save them all as drafts as I go, then just quickly go through and post them all. AO3 will still sent out a notif but it's a consolidated notif of, like, ”Kalloway posted Fic1 and 14 others...” not fifteen separate notifs.

Date: 2022-02-02 06:35 (UTC)
olivermoss: (Default)
From: [personal profile] olivermoss
Good to hear :) Yeah, I was tripped up a few times by not getting how Ao3 worked, but it mostly just meant my fic was unintentionally hidden.

Date: 2022-02-02 08:49 (UTC)
vriddy: christmas gnome (gnome)
From: [personal profile] vriddy
The fake moustache option is very tempting!!

I was going to suggest doing Drafts and clicking Post at the same time because AO3 batches notifications - but I think the Collection would work a lot better!! That way you get all the time you want to prepare, and then they will all get revealed at the same time so people will only get one email.

If you do the separate account (the only way for people not to get an email), make sure to wait until the notification actually goes out before adding your main account!! Subscription emails only go out once per hour or so, it's not immediate (unless it's a gift, then it's immediate for the giftee).

Did you know you can subscribe to yourself as well? I like doing that because it gives me an idea when the emails come out and what they look like (woo, spotting a typo in the summary only after it's been sent to a bunch of people 😂). Congratulations on writing fics that so many people enjoy btw, that's an impressive number of subscribers :)

Date: 2022-02-02 16:23 (UTC)
dreamersdare: (Default)
From: [personal profile] dreamersdare
Ahahaha, is it wrong that my immediate response is "Ah, just spam them. They knew the risks when they hit subscribe!"

(More seriously, I just delete subscription emails for fics I'm not interested in. I don't see it as a bother)

Date: 2022-02-03 14:35 (UTC)
dreamersdare: (Default)
From: [personal profile] dreamersdare
I mean... I'm not sure I'm unhappy with that idea. But I eye my subscriber numbers with a degree of suspiscion when I remember they exist. Like, why are you here, subscribers? I write the randomest mix of crap known to man, surely you don't genuinely want that much spam in your inbox? I am deeply sceptical that all of my subscribers are interested in all the fandoms I post for.

I think I might basically saying that I want to hide my fic in the bowels of AO3, so that it's technically there if you go looking but no-one notices it *laughs*

Date: 2022-02-04 12:46 (UTC)
vriddy: Cute dragon hatching from an egg (Default)
From: [personal profile] vriddy
Might be closer to "one hour later" because of the way the subscription emails are batched but yay, that's the spirit :D I love learning little tips to make my life easier, haha.

Date: 2022-02-04 21:43 (UTC)
dreamersdare: (Default)
From: [personal profile] dreamersdare
See, this is the problem they don't talk about with censorahip. HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO KNOW IF YOU'RE READY FOR ME?!?!

I am just perpetually bemused by mine. I mean, I figure some of them will leave if the randomness really starts to irk them?

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